Fuck yes, you heard me, another box set. This one is from avant-garde/progressive rock band Henry Cow. The links here are Volume 1 to 9. EXCLUDING volume 10 (a live DVD), the bonus CD as well as the subscriber exclusive 3rd box. Total length is roughly 8 hours and 45 minutes.I decided to split the downloads to volumes so you don't have to download the whole box if you just want certain volumes, on the other hand this forces you to click more links if you want the whole thing, but whatever, the amount downloaded in bytes remains the same anyway.
All volumes are in mp3, vbr v0 quality.
Box 1: The Road, Volumes 1-5Extracts from rehearsal and other tapes from 1971-73. Tracks 1,2,5 are from rehearsal tapes, recorded by Jack Balchin before Legend. Other tracks are from various unmarked tapes, 1971-73.
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Volume 2: 1974-5
A collection of live performances from 1974 and 1975. Tracks 1-5 are from an unmarked tape, 1974. Tracks 7-23 are from a concert at the Verenigingsgebouw in Halsteren, 26 September 1974, recorded by Jan Smagge on a stereo reel-to-reel. Tracks 24-32 are from a concert at the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées, Paris, 8 May 1975, with live mix by Sarah Greaves.
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Volume 3: Hamburg
Recordings from the March 1976 Hamburg, Germany concert. Tracks 1-13 are from a public concert recorded for the NDR Jazz Workshop, Hamburg, 26 March 1976. Track 14 are from a concert at the Piazza Navona, Rome, 27 June 1975, mixed by Sarah Greaves. Track 15 are from a concert at the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées, Paris, 8 May 1975, with live mix by Sarah Greaves.
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Volume 4 & 5: Trondheim
This is probably my favorite in the bunch. A double CD of a complete concert recorded in Trondheim, Norway in May 1976. All tracks from a cassette recording made by Henry Cow at the mixing desk at a concert at Studentersamfundet, Trondheim, 26 May 1976, mixed by Joel Schwartz
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Box 2: The Road, Volumes 5-9 (excluding the vol.10 video dvd)Volume 6: Stockholm & Göteborg
Swedish Radio recordings of concerts performed in May 1976 in Gothenburg and May 1977 in Stockholm. Tracks 1-7 and 12-14 were recorded for Tonkraft by Sveriges Radio at a concert in Stockholm on 9 May 1977 and broadcast on 8 June and 11 June 1977; the programme producer was S. Vermalin. Track 8 was recorded for the NDR Jazz Workshop in Hamburg on 26 March 1976. Tracks 9-11 were recorded for Tonkraft by Sveriges Radio at a concert in Gothenburg on 28 May 1976 and broadcast on 14 July and 17 July 1976; the programme producer was Christer Eklund.
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Volume 7: Later and Post-Virgin
A collection of live performances from late 1976 and 1977. Tracks 1-3 were recorded on cassette from the audience at Wandsworth Town Hall, London, 13 February 1977, live mix by Jack Balchin. Track 4 was recorded on cassette from the audience at De Plek, Vlissingen, 22 May 1977, live mix by Jack Balchin. Tracks 5-7 were recorded on cassette from the audience at Salle des Fetes, Chaumont, P 25 November 1976, live mix by Jack Balchin. Tracks 8-11 were recorded on cassette from the audience at Melkweg, Amsterdam, 16 December 1977, live mix by Jack Balchin. Track 12 was from an unidentified cassette recording, probably Italy, May/June 1977.
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Volume 8: Bremen
Extracts from a Radio Bremen radio broadcast in March 1978. Recorded for New Jazz Live at a public concert at Sendesall, Studio F, Radio Bremen, 22 March 1978, produced by Bernd Meier, concert mix by Jack Balchin.
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Volume 9: Late
A collection of performances from June and July 1978, plus Henry Cow's set at the inaugural Rock in Opposition Festival in March 1978. Tracks 1-4,10 are from a source unknown, probably outdoors in Italy, June or July 1978, live concert mix by E. M. Thomas. Tracks 5-9 are from the Rock in Opposition Festival at New London Theatre, Drury Lane, London, 12 March 1978, recorded by Hasse Bruniusson of Samla Mammas Manna, live concert mix by Jack Balchin. Track 11 was recorded on cassette from the audience at Cervia, 23 July 1978, live concert mix by E. M. Thomas.
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Oh wow, what a beautiful wall of text. I could've added cover art for each volume, but that would just be mean.
Swedish Radio recordings of concerts performed in May 1976 in Gothenburg and May 1977 in Stockholm. Tracks 1-7 and 12-14 were recorded for Tonkraft by Sveriges Radio at a concert in Stockholm on 9 May 1977 and broadcast on 8 June and 11 June 1977; the programme producer was S. Vermalin. Track 8 was recorded for the NDR Jazz Workshop in Hamburg on 26 March 1976. Tracks 9-11 were recorded for Tonkraft by Sveriges Radio at a concert in Gothenburg on 28 May 1976 and broadcast on 14 July and 17 July 1976; the programme producer was Christer Eklund.
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Volume 7: Later and Post-Virgin
A collection of live performances from late 1976 and 1977. Tracks 1-3 were recorded on cassette from the audience at Wandsworth Town Hall, London, 13 February 1977, live mix by Jack Balchin. Track 4 was recorded on cassette from the audience at De Plek, Vlissingen, 22 May 1977, live mix by Jack Balchin. Tracks 5-7 were recorded on cassette from the audience at Salle des Fetes, Chaumont, P 25 November 1976, live mix by Jack Balchin. Tracks 8-11 were recorded on cassette from the audience at Melkweg, Amsterdam, 16 December 1977, live mix by Jack Balchin. Track 12 was from an unidentified cassette recording, probably Italy, May/June 1977.
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Volume 8: Bremen
Extracts from a Radio Bremen radio broadcast in March 1978. Recorded for New Jazz Live at a public concert at Sendesall, Studio F, Radio Bremen, 22 March 1978, produced by Bernd Meier, concert mix by Jack Balchin.
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Volume 9: Late
A collection of performances from June and July 1978, plus Henry Cow's set at the inaugural Rock in Opposition Festival in March 1978. Tracks 1-4,10 are from a source unknown, probably outdoors in Italy, June or July 1978, live concert mix by E. M. Thomas. Tracks 5-9 are from the Rock in Opposition Festival at New London Theatre, Drury Lane, London, 12 March 1978, recorded by Hasse Bruniusson of Samla Mammas Manna, live concert mix by Jack Balchin. Track 11 was recorded on cassette from the audience at Cervia, 23 July 1978, live concert mix by E. M. Thomas.
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Oh wow, what a beautiful wall of text. I could've added cover art for each volume, but that would just be mean.
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This collection is still available from the manufacturer. They went to a lot of expense and effort to make this and are a small imprint that doesn't make a lot of profit off each box. On top of all that, they bend over backwards to treat their customers well. Try holding off on the free distribution until they've at least sold all the limited number of these sets.
ReplyDeleteJust because you CAN give something away for nothing doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
Of course, buy it yourself if you feel that's the right thing to do. They're quite cheap, just about 100£. But there are people who can't even afford that, students, unemployed people (especially now with the financial crisis) etc. I deeply believe that culture is NOT about money, of course you can't just give away free cd's in the stores but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there's a personal responsibility whether or not you want to pay for something now when there is free distribution through the internet. There is actually a small possibility that one that comes across this blogpost and downloads this boxset who would've otherwise bought it, I give him that opportunity, temptation, some people would consider me the devil for this, but can I really be held responsible for this person's actions? If I give you a shotgun, and you shot yourself with it, is it my fault? (I know that's exaggerated but still). It's up to free will. I give the opportunity to enjoy this fantastic box even for the poor, I don't really consider myself the culprit here, if you didn't catch on to that already. I don't think henry cow won't have too much trouble selling all their boxes even if I posted them here, as long as people like you actually BUY it themselves instead of self-righteously ranting hypocrisy.
ReplyDeleteYou've obviously spent a lot of time rationalizing your actions and the bully pulpit of your mediafire account proves you right. We will probably never agree on this issue, but I would appeal to you to at least consider delaying the continued free distribution of this set for a little longer while this limited production of sets is sold. To me, it seems like a small concession to try and support the independent producer - without whom the concept of "culture" is a much bleaker proposition.
ReplyDeleteThe temptation has been placed in front of you. Now the choice is yours.
Do you download music?
ReplyDeleteCan you possibly reupload part one of the stockholm concert? Can't seem to get it off MEdiafire
ReplyDeleteIt really should be fine. I can download it.
ReplyDeleteBIG thanks for this. Fantastic stuff.
ReplyDeleteand two fingers to anonymous.
have downloaded stokholm twice now, and it doesnt open. please re-up. thanks. Rupert
ReplyDeleteIt's the rar file? or is the the mediafire link? Anyways I'll try a re-upload (with a new archive).
ReplyDeleteAll right, Stockholm & Göteborg is re-uploaded folks. Go fetch.
ReplyDeleteI downloaded the re-uploaded Stockholm & Göteborg file and it still will not open. It seems that part 1 has the problem- the rar file only contains 22.7MB of its 98MB. Could you try to re-upload once more? Thanks!
ReplyDeleteWow this is bewildering. The problem must occur when I upload it to mediafire as I still have the rar file and it works just fine (I've noticed that mediafire tends to re-track files it thinks I've uploaded before). I'll re-archive it again and make sure it doesn't, if it still does I'll upload it on megaupload.
ReplyDeletePlease disregard the last post. I downloaded part 1 again and now the file is complete. I don't know why the last two tries didn't work- third time's a charm! Thanks again for posting this box!!!
ReplyDeleteWell I've already reuploaded it again anyway.
ReplyDeleteHi,
ReplyDeletethank you for sharing this one!
Anyway, I can't download the PART1 of "Stockolm and Goteborg" and the Pt2 of "Later and Post Virgin". Can you reupload them once more?
Thank you!
Mediafire does that sometimes, have you tried again since then? It might work now. If it timeouts when you actually click the "download file" try just refreshing the blank page instead of going back.
ReplyDeleteThe files are still up and I can download them just fine, tell me if it still doesn't work out though.
speechless!... i just downloaded all of them with no problems... i did not know of its' existence until i stumbled across your blog & i will be buying it!
ReplyDeletepeople have to begin to realise that music blogs are a good form of free advertising for bands & labels alike... thank you for your share... & you have sold them one more copy... Mxxx
A great many thanks for this share!
ReplyDeleteWould you know if there's a chance for the third box to show up somehow?
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the third box is an empty box to put the original lps in...
ReplyDeleteyou are god.
ReplyDeletethanks, i can now listen and decide if i want to invest in purchasing this...
ReplyDeletet.
I have to agree that by uploading this already for free download you've pretty much shit on the effort that ReR, Henry Cow and company have put into this issue, not to mention the effort they put into the original performances, which weren't very profitable at all. "Culture is not about money," sure, but an artist who puts capital into the production of a CD only to have their music given away for free isn't going to make much money to live off of, now are they? If the ability to listen to Henry Cow's music whenever you feel like it is important to you, then you should be willing to pay. As someone who wants that privilege, I was happy to purchase the set, especially since my purchase helped ReR recoup the money invested in the set's production. Call this attitude self-righteous, but I do believe the righteousness is directed toward the musicians who provided the product you're giving away for free. Your shotgun analogy is a pathetic attempt at rationalization, as is your claim that ReR will sell their stock (which is only 1500); the faster they sell out, the more likely the label will produce more copies and actually make a profit. If this were any other more successful band you might actually take solace in the fact that they're making plenty of money through live performances, publishing, etc. or that album sales are only giving the label more money that the artist won't see. But it's not, it's Henry Cow, and the label is owned by members of the band. You're really shitting where you eat on this one. I agree with the first poster in saying that the VERY least you can do is wait until the first 1500 copies have sold out before continuing to offer this. Do the band a solid; I promise it'll help those nagging feelings of guilt that you keep trying to suppress with desperately thin rationalizations.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe you can suck my ass.
ReplyDeleteI already had this argument with about 200 other people.
I am right, you are wrong. I don't have to explain why or how because you are ignorant.
Just because you already had this argument doesn't mean you're right, and your refusal to engage the numerous specific points I brought up in favor of telling me to suck your ass and that I'm "ignorant" (without, of course, telling me what exactly it is that I'm ignoring) is on par with admitting that you're wrong.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, man, Lindsay Cooper--Henry Cow's bassoonist and one of their prime composers--has been completely inactive in the music business since the turn of the centure do to multiple sclerosis. Her financially unsuccessful music career has left her without money for insurance so she can't even take care of her basic needs. Supporting Henry Cow by buying this release covers the basic needs of the people who made the music, and here you are babbling about how "culture isn't about money." Obviously you've never been in a band, otherwise you'd have a little bit more compassion, and wouldn't be so righteously spouting off about your "deep beliefs."
I'd love to see you sit across the table from Chris Cutler and tell him that the CDs he spends his days at ReR putting together for release aren't worth any money and the music should be available for free. Or maybe you could visit Lindsay Cooper and explain why she doesn't deserve any money for the pieces she composed and played. Obviously you wouldn't; it's easier to hide on your blog and use a separate server to host your music. Way to back up those deep convictions with true bravery.
I can't decide which is worse--the childish, conceited sense that you're entitled to anything you want for free, or the trembling coward's bravado in attempting to claim you're right in arguing about it. No, I don't think I'll be sucking your ass, or even asking you to suck mine. I'll just be waiting to hear a real explanation of how exactly it is that you're not fucking over the members of Henry Cow by giving this boxed set away for free. Doubt I'll be getting that, since you've already given me the 2nd grade classic "I'm right, you are wrong." Or, you could donate some money to Lindsay Cooper's care fund--the email address is on the first page of the Henry Cow 40th Anniversary Box Set booklet. Oh wait...
For anyone interested in actually contributing to the welfare of one of the human beings who made this music, the email address sarah.maude@virgin.net will get you more information about Lindsay Cooper's account. Or purchase the boxed set. Bye.
ReplyDeleteGoddamn, you just don't understand anything. "Obviously you haven't been in a band", you people make me laugh. I've been in several bands and also make music by myself. I own several Henry Cow recordings myself, without the internet I would never had heard of them. Without file-sharing I would never had bought any of their records. You're stuck in the last generation, completely unable to understand that people who download music support music as well. And that this is in fact helping younger, more underground or otherwise obscure artists to reach out to a larger crowd who would potentially buy their records. Sure it sounds so painful that an artist might have only sold 100 copies while a 1000 were downloaded online, but hypothetically, if none could've downloaded that album how many would've sold in that case? And how many of those would've regret buying it? Though this was just a theoretical question, I don't actually want an reply from you.
ReplyDeleteThe words which are missing here are "copyright infringement." You can rationalize all you want, but it's a crime internationally to do what you're doing and the possible consequences include large money damages and imprisonment. None of the "I'm right you're wrong" rationalizations you've posted here would help you in a court of law. You'd be toast. There is a reason these laws exist, and what you are doing is that reason. The members of this band are no longer performing together and these releases -- their first new releases in decades, are their only source of income as a band.
ReplyDeleteThe higher the law the lower the crime.
ReplyDeleteI think we should introduce death sentence or AT LEAST life imprisonment with torture for shoplifting.
But the thing is, I'm not doing anything illegal as far as I've interpreted the law, I don't host these files on my own servers and linking to links where you can download copyright infringing files isn't illegal either, I mean in that case we should go ahead and sue google for infinity in cash or what the hell, let's just shut down the internet completely, now that will get rid of filesharing! Stroke of genius. BUT we've wandered far off the fucking point.
QUIT FIGHTING
ReplyDeleteif you like it, buy it
if you dont have the money, buy a more affordable release
i personally think henry cow were never in it for the money
Henry Cow is a great band. In the good'ol 70s me and my friends used to rip-off music from each other by cassette recorders! We even used to put the microphone up to the speaker! The sound was awful, to be sure, but just the same enjoyable. Now we can burn CDs and download from the Internet. Sure, there are poor artists all over the world, and it's sure nice to help them out. But at this precise moment I am unable to buy even a simple CD: I am jobless and living in a very poor country. So is it really wrong to download once in a while? Maybe later I can buy the box (I would especially like to have in my hands the accompanying booklet). Anyway I think both you guys are right (and wrong). So, cheers! Life is short and art everlasting...
ReplyDeletei don´t have money buy this box set! thank you very much for the post!!
ReplyDeleteI feel the need to comment on the heated discussion taking place on this page because I have at different points sat firmly on both sides. As a musician I refused to download music for a very long time as I felt it was ripping off the artists. But after 3 years of being a student living on the bread line, temporarily unable to afford purchasing any music, I changed my mind. I was tired of not being able to listen to music I was interested in and would change my life, just because I couldn't afford it. Should music only be a privilege for those with money? If I had the spare money I would use it on vinyl. Which is what I did when I had a full time job. But for the last 3 years I have not had the spare money. Does that mean I should be denied the gift of music? Why should you get to benefit from the life enriching experience of listening to music you love, whilst I don't, just because you are fortunate enough to have a job that pays well. And what about the people who for whatever reason are un-employable? I'm sure their lives are tough enough without being denied the joy of music. You're probably seeing me as a gluttonous spoilt brat who should just go without for a while and settle with what they've already got. To that I respond that you must have no idea how much music means to me. As I am a musician/audio engineer and D.J, I'm sure you can understand music is my life. I constantly need to absorb new sounds to keep me passionate, thriving, motivated and inspired. Without new music all my work would become stagnant. This is not saying music is disposable to me. I keep every track I've ever loved close to me. But I need to keep being reminded of what's out there to keep me inspired to be out there creating too. By hearing more, my creative vision will be expanded and I will be putting better work out there. I decided as a musician I would rather my music be heard for free by someone than not at all. Yes I would rather they pay for it so I can make a living off it. But if that isn't a possibility I'd still like them to hear it. Due to downloading I have heard a couple of albums that I fell so deeply in love with I worked extra shifts, slaving my butt off, so I could scrimp and save over a period of time to afford the occasional purchase. I wouldn't have done this if I hadn't downloaded the album because I never would have had the chance to fall in love with it. I am also a (volunteer) D.J and play some music I have downloaded on the air. At this present time in my life I cannot afford to buy all the music I need to fill my track list. But by playing music I have downloaded on air, the music is reaching many many more people, some of whom may download it, BUT some of whom will buy it. Which never would have happened if I hadn't downloaded it. I'm studying audio engineering and within the course we study business & law. Within this class we held a discussion with industry professionals (including musicians) who said downloading is the way forward and the negative stigma needs to be lost. They had the opinion that it is the best marketing device out there. It gets the bands name out there. And sure, a lot of people might stick to their downloads and never purchase the album/see a concert. But those are the people who were never going to anyway. The people who want the album will still want it even after they have a shitty little mp3 file. When I had money spare I bought Henry Cow. When I have money spare again, I'm sure as hell gonna buy this box set. Even though I've already downloaded these mp3 files. I'm sure I've gone into so much detail you've already tuned out. But I felt you needed to hear a detailed case so you could really understand where other people stand. I'm sure my case is not a rare one.
ReplyDeletep.s Llort, thank you for providing me with the beauty of Henry Cow, which I otherwise would not have experienced.
i have a feeling there are not too many people downloading this release who would have spent the ~$140 on the boxes. So far i am really enjoying 2 of the 9 cds, and i imagine i'll probably dig another one or 2 over time. If i had ended up really liking it, i would have no qualms to go out and buy the sets, so that i can get the dvd and the booklets. but as it turns out, this has provided me and excellent opportunity to try out the release before making the purchasing decision. I personally think the band should release individual cds of some of this material, and especially the DVD. I would definitely pay 25 bucks for the DVD if it were released individually. Over the last 4 years i have downloaded countless hundreds of albums. But as a result i have discovered way more bands and purchased way more Cds than i would have otherwise. I hope this isn't really hurting the band... that would be a shame, but it is most definitely not a black and white situation.
ReplyDeleteIt really boils down to if you have disposable income and normally spend it on CDs, than downloading is not going to stop you. People like to quantify the amount of money lost by downloading, but they rarely take into account that most of those people would have never bought the releases in the first place. (maybe this is less true the more mainstream an album is.... and in those cases it is the prohibitively high cost of cds that is the real problem).
Thank you for posting this.!!
In my country £100 is about a worker's monthly wage. If someone tell me I can listen just what I can afford or what's on the radio I would give him the finger. This Internet thing is here to stay and the challenge for musicians is the same than for the rest of us: to learn how to take advantage of it.. So Llort, please keep the hard work!!
ReplyDeleteThis release is done with love. Shame on you. Support art. Chris Cutler is running a record company that releases fantastic music. I'm sure it needs every little money to keep on running. I have not the money to buy it too but you know what I BOUGHT IT and it's worth it.
ReplyDeleteFUCK YOU!
and what is so fucking stupid about it, they only want you to delay this download till all boxes (1500) went out. nothing more.
ReplyDeleteWith this kind of attitude there will be nothing to offer for you at this very place in the future because this kind of music will be dead. And we will listen to shit all day long till we die.
And believe me YOU ARE WRONG!
And one more time for the world: FUCK YOU!!!!
Yeah the internet which introduced millions and not just a select few to actually slightly more obscure music than what's typically running on MTV and radio are killing it.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous you're so smart but you can't even see the whole picture. Places like this are actually helping musicians to get audiences worldwide and in time, buyers of their music. If you buy stuff without knowing what you're buying, good for you and perhaps you should tell your friends to wait for downloading after the 1500 boxes are sold so when they realize they actually like the music they cant find it anywhere. Am I wrong?, I don't think so genius
ReplyDeleteThank you for putting this in the hands of people who can ill afford at the moment. I think the problem is:
ReplyDeleteRER should have made this set available in individual sets aside from the box so people could purchase 1 at a time.
I will be making this a purchase around Christmas time with money I receive from relatives. In the meantime I can enjoy this great offering by great musicians!
as an ex-member of HC I can only say I wish I'd found this site a bit earlier - regardless of all the debate, the fact remains that what you are doing is probably illegal.
ReplyDeleteI've sent the link to ReRe boss/ex HC drummer Chris Cutler, & I hope he finds a way to sue your ass, rather than kiss it..
You're an ex-member of HC? Prove it.
ReplyDeleteI hesitate to join the discussion, but as I've personally had to fight this issue myself, I must add some stuff. To the haters of sharing, do you also hate and want to drive out of business all sellers of used compact discs and vinyl? I find that over the last decade most of my disc purchases have been from used cd stores. If anyone is violating the musicians' rights, it is they, who are actually making money off the re-selling without any money going to the musicians. I found this thought via Manu Chao, who has argued that since the sharing people aren't making money off the music, they should not be chased away. It makes more sense to attack the sharing hosts (rapidshare, mediafire, megaupload, etc) who are actually making money by selling the space whereby the sharing takes place. Also, in the case of the used stores, the original buyer is making money by selling to the store who is making money by selling to the end buyer. Should they all be thrown in jail as well? Why not, as they are actually violating the copyright laws as well, no? I personally don't love the sharing, but have had to adapt, as we all have. Until the capitalist system is destroyed, we will all have to put up with others using us, the artists, as I am one also. The real problem is the overall imbedded system, but since most people are unaware of the true culprit, they are unable to counter it. In the Art of War by Sun Tzu, it is taught that the best way to destroy your enemy is to get it to destroy itself. The purveyors of money have created a system (the US military created the internet, you know) whereby the broke fans are 'stealing' the music of the leftist pacifist musical artists. You do know that the CIA considered John Lennon an enemy to America, don't you? What better way to destroy their enemy, us, that to get us to attack each other, and weaken each other. Problem is, they also created this economic crisis which has made this issue more difficult to those of us who would have preferred to make a living making music. Until you can identify the true enemy, we will only weaken ourselves.
ReplyDeleteps, I wouldn't buy a Henry Cow box set, I don't know anything of theirs, and this would never be a start, unless, of course, I found that I liked it, and then I would look first on Amazon for a used copy. A drummer friend of mine made me several Fred Frith tapes in the 90's, should I call the cops on him? I don't remember the stuff at all, but I have them packed away in some box somewhere. I also enjoyed the soundtrack to Rivers and Tides, but I taped that off IFC, so I suppose Fred should sue IFC and VHS manufacturers as well.
Find the real enemy before you destroy your allies!
Just to chime in: I'm a musician myself, and I do, indeed, download music online, sometimes (most likely) in violation of copyright. And yet, when I am given the opportunity (monetary and otherwise) to actually buy something that I've downloaded, I buy the physical copy - or at least SOME official copy - in a heartbeat. At the moment I do not have the money to get this fabulous box; hence, I am downloading it. That does not mean that I do not fully intend to buy it later, simply that I would like to listen in the meantime.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, for those who want to avoid a guilty conscience yet are unwilling to schill out the full price should look no further than eMusic for the music on these discs. Still, not remotely as cool as the actual box... Hence, I'm saving my cash.
(*Note: By "saving my cash", I mean "saving up what pithy money I've been making to eventually buy this and who-knows-what-else".)
ReplyDeleteLlort is a spoiled brat and is in clear violation of international copyright laws. Here's to the hopes that a cease-and-desist order from a law office found him.
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm only downloading because here in Brazil even have to buy this box! For the internet is very expensive!
ReplyDeleteThanks!
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I'm downloading it, thanks for posting. I really wish I could afford to buy it, (had my eye on it ever since I saw it coming), but I haven't got the cash & its unlikely that I will ever be able to afford it.
ReplyDeleteBought the Art Bears & This Heat boxes, admire Chris & the rest of the Cow/ReR gang but I aint got the cash to fork out for this.
Volumes 1, 7 and 9 have broken links.
ReplyDeleteIt would be great if you could re-upload those as well.
Thank you.
Gosh what a heated arguement. Fascinating reading but you must realise that you have all made valid points? Some thoughts:-
ReplyDeleteHenry Cow were brilliant
Only a handful of people think this (but we are correct)
ReR did an invaluable and hercilean job in keeping 'difficult' music available to us madmen who need this stuff
Rer can't have made huge profits because only a handful of people think this.
Surely the internet will take over this important role now?
The box set is a fans only release and this blog will not have any effect on that or sales.
Illegal downloading has been a HUGE boon to us independantly minded bulk listeners who don't believe a word published in the music press - now we can try before we buy - and all the evidence is that we are still the bulk buyers. I certainly am.
Illegal downloading is a threat to big record Co's but then what does that matter? Their product is effluent now anyway. As long as you buy and keep buying the good music then there is an economic reason for those acts to grow/mature.
Just for the record I have not downloaded the box set. I only have 1 life and I want to find more good new stuff. I have all of the original albums the Cow put out and love'em.
If memory serves correctly weren't all of the Cow from well-to-do families? I can't imagine that this blog is therefore much of a threat to them.
All of that having been said it is a little rude illegally downloading what is clearly a labour of love without lavishing praise (or money) in the direction of Henry Cow and ReR in some form. They've had my money so:-
I LOVE HENRY COW!!
I tried to download a couple of things, but wasn't able. I would love to be able to have a listen. On the copyright issue, I'm a musician, and I never made any money out of it, other than expenses for gigs...I did it for love. Ideally we should be able to earn a living doing the thing we love, and artists should get paid. I think the solution is that artists should set up their own accounts. By all means download the music, but if you really like it, or respect it, then give something to the artist in recognition. CD's are too expensive. 140 quid is a lot of money when you don't have it. What is important is that the music is kept alive and available, and that art is no longer the preserve of the privileged classes.
ReplyDeleteTHIS BOX SET IS OOP. So all the people bitching about people not being able to afford a $200 box set can rest easily; it's now going to be going for about, oh, $700 to own the whole thing. So, I'm pretty sure mp3's are a-okay now.
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ReplyDeleteAmazing, sharing music on the internet without the author's consent is "hard work", but actually making this music and then putting a release like this together and releasing it is apparently no big deal. And if anyone disagrees, we can suck the blogger's ass. God forbid Chris Cutler should have an opinion on this.
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